Tapping Into Emotional Freedom W/ Amy Vincze EP 115

[00:00:00] Shanenn Bryant: Amy Vincze is a tapping expert and founder of the SOAR with tapping. I'm so excited to talk about that has been transforming herself and the lives of her clients with tapping for over 17 years and truly believes tapping to be the most powerful healing tool available today. I'm really excited. Welcome, Amy. So good to have you here.

[00:00:24] Amy Vincze: Thank you so much for having me, Shanenn. I'm honored to be here.

[00:00:28] Shanenn Bryant: I'm excited about this because I have not had anyone doing tapping on this podcast yet and I'm admitting, when I first learned about tapping a long time ago, I was like, whatever, like.

[00:00:46] Amy Vincze: I know, right? I did the same thing.

[00:00:48] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, like, come on. But the more I did this work, the more I did research, the more I heard about it and um, just different modalities that I've done myself, I'm like, oh,

[00:01:00] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm.

[00:01:03] Shanenn Bryant: me. So am so glad to have you on.

[00:01:07] Amy Vincze: good. Good. Introduce more and more people to it. I love it.

[00:01:11] Shanenn Bryant: yeah, exactly. Um. so, I also will admit this isn't a practice that I have started doing. So, after today, we're gonna see how it goes and I, it may be something that I incorporate in, but I always do want to give the audience just different, modalities, different

[00:01:31] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:01:31] Shanenn Bryant: they can try.

[00:01:32] Because what one, what works for me may not work for everyone or what works for me. I might go, oh my gosh, you've gotta try this.

[00:01:39] Amy Vincze: Right, right.

[00:01:40] Shanenn Bryant: That's, that's, um, hopefully what people get outta this episode 

[00:01:44] Amy Vincze: Yeah, I think one of the, one of the important things about having this tool in your toolbox, we've got a lot of tools, right? We, and, but we know that we need to take care of our physical body, and we've got a lot of ways that we can do that. We know that we can take care of our spiritual, the spiritual part of ourself, and we have a lot of ways that we can do that.

[00:02:03] Walks in nature, meditation, you know, whatever your thing is, and we. Have highly valued taking care of ourselves intellectually for so many years. I mean, we put our kids through school, and you know, highly valued higher education and that sort of thing, but we have never really, um. Gone deep into the emotional part of who we are.

[00:02:29] And really, emotions are king. They dictate every experience that we have, whether it's a good experience or a bad experience. And so, this, using tapping is a really great way to gain emotional intelligence and to gain kind of emotional flexibility, um, and awareness because, and it's like building a muscle.

[00:02:50] Anything else. It takes a little bit of work to get adept at it, but when you do, it makes life so much easier.

[00:03:00] Shanenn Bryant: Right.

[00:03:01] Amy Vincze: To not feel like you don't have to run from uncomfortable emotions to actually, I. Allow yourself to lean in and move through them, feeling them and, um, as they come up, then that means that they don't get stored in our body and create problems later.

[00:03:18] So that's where tapping is really, really powerful.

[00:03:22] Shanenn Bryant: Yes, and that's why I'm so excited about this because one of the things I talk a lot about on this podcast and to the listener is I get that we're. Embarrassed and maybe a little bit, um, feeling shameful of our jealousy and our insecurities. But if you keep trying to push it away, if you keep going, I don't want to feel it.

[00:03:42] I am, I hate that I have this, then we can't, we can't work through it. We can't let it move

[00:03:49] Amy Vincze: Right.

[00:03:49] Shanenn Bryant: and go, okay, now I know how to manage this. Now I know how to. Feel the uncomfortable emotions and the uncomfortable feelings. I also know that, guess what, I lean into them, as you

[00:04:05] Amy Vincze: Mm.

[00:04:06] Shanenn Bryant: they dissipate.

[00:04:07] Right. They don't

[00:04:08] Amy Vincze: They don't stay, but we've never been taught to lean in, right? I mean, we get judged and criticized for having any other emotions than the happy ones. And so, it becomes something that we are taught to avoid at all costs that that it is somehow a bad thing. And I don't think that are any negative emotions.

[00:04:27] I just think that there are some that are more uncomfortable than others.

[00:04:31] Shanenn Bryant: Right.

[00:04:32] Amy Vincze: we have the courage to lean in, we find out that they aren't going to kill us. Like it feels some, like sometimes it really isn't going to kill us to feel that stuff, and it just might give us some clues about. What's really going on underneath the surface because things like jealousy and insecurity are symptoms.

[00:04:52] They're symptoms of some; some other core issue that needs to be addressed. And so, when they come up, you know, if we can kind of step outside of those, the judgments and criticisms about feeling that way, then we can get curious about what's underneath it and then have a pathway forward, you know, that is more, more healthy.

[00:05:14] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, absolutely. Well, um, you know, you mentioned when I said, oh, I didn't, I, I had my judgment about tapping itself in the beginning you said, oh yeah, me too. So how did you get into

[00:05:27] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm.

[00:05:28] Shanenn Bryant: how long have you been doing it? Tell us about that. I.

[00:05:30] Amy Vincze: Okay. Um, so I was diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 31.

[00:05:38] Shanenn Bryant: Wow.

[00:05:40] Amy Vincze: really young in terms of, you know, being diagnosed with cancer and no history of breast cancer in my family whatsoever. Um, but I think what I had on my side at the time, uh, I should say up until that point, I had gone through periods of anxiety, periods of depression, you know, not really understanding why.

[00:05:58] I just kind of figured that they were character defects. Um, so I got to this point, but the one thing that I had on my side was I. Um, I've always kind of been a seeker and really curious about human behavior, especially my own, and it was. I would often look at my own behavior, like if I had a kind of an irrational response to maybe some criticism or, or feelings of jealousy and insecurity, and I could look over at somebody else who was, you know, relatively the same as me, and see that that person was not responding to a similar situation in that way.

[00:06:40] And even laughing it off and, and not thinking about it twice, you know? So, I would often look at those type of things and. Be curious about what it is about me that felt so different. So, when I, when the breast cancer diagnosis came, uh, its kind of, um, fast tracked my need to find answers to those things because I really felt on an intuitive level that.

[00:07:09] It was because of my insecurities and my anxiety and depression that I had breast cancer because

[00:07:17] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, that you developed

[00:07:18] Amy Vincze: that I developed it because of those things. Um, so that's when I really started hot and heavy down the path of unraveling myself and kind of what caused it. And so, I got involved with Tony Robbins. Love that guy.

[00:07:36] Um, and went through his whole program and then was crewing an event. And I met Nick Ortner, who is really big in the world of tapping, and he called me like a month later and said, I found this thing. I'm so excited about it. I want to try it on you. And um, we had one session and that's all it took to kind of recognize the power of this tool.

[00:07:59] And it was really short after that, that I got certified. Um, and started my own tapping journey with my own coach and I had kind of intermittent success with it. Sometimes I would have a really great session and feel like there was just a lot of release, and other times I would walk away. Like I didn't really make an impact at all.

[00:08:24] Um, but I had another crisis in my life as we do, uh, about seven years ago.

[00:08:31] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, because we can't just have

[00:08:32] Amy Vincze: No, no, no,

[00:08:33] Shanenn Bryant: just have one or one at a

[00:08:35] Amy Vincze: no, no, no.

[00:08:36] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah.

[00:08:38] Amy Vincze: where it, it just felt like everything was crumbling around me, like I was doing horribly at my job and, um, was about to get fired. And I, my body was in pain a lot of the time. I was having panic attacks pretty much on a daily basis.

[00:08:53] Every, everything would felt like it was crumbling around me, and I went to this tool and, but I. I tried using it differently this time. I went after the core issues, like I was experiencing big fear of failure. So, I'd started tapping on that, but then I was like, well, what actually would happen if I failed?

[00:09:17] Like

[00:09:17] Shanenn Bryant: Mm-hmm.

[00:09:18] Amy Vincze: what would happen? Maybe I would get judgment and criticism from people. And then I was like, well, why is that so scary if other people are judging and criticizing me? Because. Then it would, it went to something else like, well, maybe that would confirm my worst fears, that I am unworthy and deserving of love, or maybe they would reject me or abandon me if that actually happened, which is what happened for me as a kid.

[00:09:51] My dad left when I was like four years old, so. I kind of took the, the top symptom of what was happening. And then I kept saying, well, what would happen if that was actually true? What would happen if that was actually true and what would that mean to me? And then I started tapping around that and telling myself, well, of course I would be absolutely deathly afraid of that happening.

[00:10:17] Like, so I just kept honoring and acknowledging that part of me that had. Been so traumatized by that experience and then like it took like maybe two weeks of tapping for about a half an hour a day while now I'm on the treadmill and I all of a sudden Shanenn, I was finally able to look at the world without the lens of being or thinking that there was something wrong with me.

[00:10:49] Shanenn Bryant: Right,

[00:10:50] Amy Vincze: was like all of a sudden, I could see that the sky was blue. It was a total shift in my perspective and about who I was, and everything changed in that moment. I'm not saying that the work ended in that moment there. I mean, I don't think I'll ever be done doing my own personal work, but if anybody can feel that type of transformation.

[00:11:19] I feel like this is my, this is my work to do in the world, to bring this tool, this amazing tool, and use it in a way that harnesses its full power. Then anybody can experience that type of transformation, and I wanna make it to available to as many people as possible.

[00:11:40] Shanenn Bryant: Yes. Thank you so much for sharing that story. That's amazing. And I know that the person listening to this, they can relate probably to a lot of what you're saying I think that's what we're all after, right? okay, how can I, how am I seeing the world with all of these wounds and this filter and this lens that I have

[00:12:04] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm.

[00:12:04] Shanenn Bryant: And then, my gosh, what would the, what would life be

[00:12:07] Amy Vincze: Yes.

[00:12:08] Shanenn Bryant: if I could take that off and not have that anymore? And, um, um, so this is, this is hopefully a way that somebody can, you know, along their journey, um, this be a tool for them to do, to get to that place as well.

[00:12:23] Amy Vincze: When I started tapping though, I have to admit, I thought it was so stupid. I thought I looked so stupid. Like I'm tapping on my, tapping on my face, tapping on my body. I am like, oh God, this just feels cringey. Like I don't want anybody to look at me while I'm doing this.

[00:12:39] Shanenn Bryant: right. Yeah.

[00:12:40] Amy Vincze: wouldn't have continued if I didn't notice a difference right away.

[00:12:43] So

[00:12:45] Shanenn Bryant: Mm.

[00:12:45] Amy Vincze: one of the

[00:12:45] Shanenn Bryant: Okay. So yeah, judgment

[00:12:47] Amy Vincze: Yes.

[00:12:48] Shanenn Bryant: worry about what you look like when you're doing it. Just go with it.

[00:12:52] Amy Vincze: Yeah, yeah, totally. Just go with it. And then, yeah, the bottom line is it works, it doesn't hurt anything, so you're not gonna, you're not risking anything by trying it. And if you're alone, then who gives a shit what you look like, right? You just. Kind of go for it and know that in the end you're gonna feel better.

[00:13:12] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, that's so good. Um, yeah, so. All judgment aside today, um, if you're somewhere while you're listening to this, that you're like, I'm in the gym. I can't do this. Okay, pause it. And then when you're in a space that feels good, I would imagine after you do it for a while, you're like, okay, I don't, I don't

[00:13:31] Amy Vincze: Yeah, I don't care.

[00:13:32] Shanenn Bryant: Um,

[00:13:32] Amy Vincze: care.

[00:13:33] Shanenn Bryant: yeah. Yeah. Who cares, right? Yeah. Um, okay. So, are there things that we need to know? Leading up to, okay, I am gonna do this session, or how, how do we start to familiarize ourselves or start the process?

[00:13:51] Amy Vincze: Um, I'd love to tell you how it works. A lot of people.

[00:13:55] Shanenn Bryant: Okay.

[00:13:56] Amy Vincze: Will, um, kind of suspend judgment a little bit more when they kind of hear how it works and the kind of the science behind it a little bit. So, um, it, it's a bit of a triple threat 'cause it incorporates three different modalities that can, that combined are really powerful.

[00:14:12] So the first is energy therapy, which it's just like acupuncture and utilizes the 14 energy meridians found in Chinese medicine. Instead of the needles, we are using the percussion of tapping on our ACU acupressure points and which is way better than needles any day.

[00:14:33] Shanenn Bryant: Than the needles.

[00:14:34] Amy Vincze: It also,

[00:14:35] Shanenn Bryant: side note, I don't mean to interrupt you, but yes, because the acupuncture, gosh, the acupuncture. I, um, when I went to, I was in physical therapy. And for, for a

[00:14:47] Amy Vincze: mm-hmm.

[00:14:48] Shanenn Bryant: And they were like, okay, let's, let's try acupuncture. And I'm like, okay, I've never done it before.

[00:14:53] And then right before he puts the needle in, he goes, well, I have to just also tell you, you know, 'cause they had me sign forms or whatever, have this could, there is a possibility this could like puncture your lung or whatever, go through. And I'm like, hold

[00:15:06] Amy Vincze: Oh

[00:15:06] Shanenn Bryant: wait,

[00:15:07] Amy Vincze: Time out.

[00:15:08] Shanenn Bryant: No, no, no, no, no. I was like, oh, that's it for me.

[00:15:12] Not happening. So

[00:15:13] Amy Vincze: my gosh.

[00:15:14] Shanenn Bryant: that this is a, um, safer, more comfortable version.

[00:15:19] Amy Vincze: Yes, it absolutely is. It also uses, um, cognitive therapy aspects because you're talking about what it is you want to release while you're doing the tapping. And then there's the somatic element, because while you're tapping, you can't help but kind of gather your energy back from the past and gather your energy back from the future and really ground yourself in the present moment, which is what somatic work does and grounds you in your body and those three different elements combined.

[00:15:55] Are really, really powerful. So, what's happening on a scientific level is that we know when we're experiencing something like jealousy, we know that we've been triggered somehow. We might not necessarily know what has triggered us. It could be the behavior of our partner, it could be a past experience, um, anything along those lines.

[00:16:19] But something is happening in our environment that is causing us to feel this feeling of jealousy. So

[00:16:26] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah.

[00:16:26] Amy Vincze: what happens is our amygdala, the stress center in our brain gets triggered that fight, fight, or freeze mode, and our body gets rushed with cortisol. So, the act of tapping on our bodies. On these acupressure points keeps telling our amygdala to deescalate, deescalate, deescalate.

[00:16:51] It's okay to feel safe and calm in this moment, and it is lowering cortisol in our system 43% faster than if you had didn't done nothing else.

[00:17:02] Shanenn Bryant: Really

[00:17:03] Amy Vincze: studies have shown.

[00:17:04] Shanenn Bryant: That's

[00:17:05] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:17:06] Shanenn Bryant: because that's a big problem with the, you

[00:17:08] Amy Vincze: Yes.

[00:17:09] Shanenn Bryant: when someone is experiencing jealousy, it's like that cortisol, the rush of cortisol and then out the mouth comes the thing that you probably don't wanna say to your

[00:17:17] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:17:17] Shanenn Bryant: explode. You know, have that sort of outburst. And I

[00:17:20] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:17:20] Shanenn Bryant: all the time are like; I can't control it.

[00:17:22] I feel like I can't control it. So that's fa, that's fantastic.

[00:17:26] Amy Vincze: it's lowering your heart rate. It's lowering your blood pressure. It's lowering cortisol. Like I said, it's also increasing immune function in your body and increasing happiness. So, it's doing all of these things in a really short period of time. There've been over 300 studies done. About how effective this tool actually is at doing all of those things for us.

[00:17:49] It is a great regulator in a dysregulated system,

[00:17:55] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, I love it. Okay. I'm even more

[00:17:57] Amy Vincze: right? Yeah. So yeah, it's just a process and I think the thing that people get hung up on the most is the fact that we are. Talking about all of the negative feelings that we have when we're, when we're doing the tapping. So, what actually happens is that we will take a rating, say, how jealous do you feel on a scale from zero to 10?

[00:18:23] Maybe you're at a 10 in this moment. You're really triggered for whatever reason. So we go, okay, you're at a 10. We tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And then we take a rating at the end and see how, how much it's come down. It's could come down like. Three, four points, and then you just keep tapping, keep tapping, keep tapping and at, but at some point, you'll reach the magic number of like maybe a three or a four on that scale, and that's when you can start infusing all.

[00:18:57] My more positive comments that when your, that's when your body and your mind can accept the more positive comments at a really deep level. So, we have to take that time to honor and acknowledge, give all of those feelings their day in court, allow ourselves to actually feel them instead of suppressing them, instead of making them wrong in some way, shape, or form.

[00:19:22] We just allow them, and then that's. When the magic of releasing them happens because it's working through, it's not denying or shoving away as far as we can. It is working through them that allows us to release it and the whole time, remember, you're telling your brain to deescalate, deescalate while you're saying these words.

[00:19:45] So if you say something like, I just can't control the words that come outta my mouth when I'm having this feeling, you're, you're telling yourself it's okay. It's peaceful. Things are peaceful. We're in this moment. Everything is fine. There is actually no real threat in this moment,

[00:20:04] Shanenn Bryant: Right.

[00:20:05] Amy Vincze: it's okay to feel safe and let that guard down.

[00:20:10] Shanenn Bryant: So

[00:20:11] Amy Vincze: That.

[00:20:11] Shanenn Bryant: good,

[00:20:11] Amy Vincze: Yeah. Yeah. That's the magic behind it. I've had some people say kind of like it feels toxic, kind of engaging with those negative, or I would say uncomfortable emotions. I don't think, and there's any negative emotions I. They're uncomfortable 'cause we're not used to them because we haven't been taught to engage with our emotions this way.

[00:20:32] We're taught to only have happy emotions. Anything less than that is unacceptable. So, um, this is a process of learning how to engage with the uncomfortable.

[00:20:46] Shanenn Bryant: Well, and I like that too, and I'm surprised to hear, um, that you are saying the negative things as you're tapping, because of course we typically hear, oh, you know, the positive. The positive, um. So, I think that's interesting because they're there already, and you're right.

[00:21:03] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm.

[00:21:03] Shanenn Bryant: one of the biggest things, like talk about

[00:21:06] Amy Vincze: Yes.

[00:21:07] Shanenn Bryant: Even just being able to talk. We always feel better if

[00:21:10] Amy Vincze: Yes.

[00:21:10] Shanenn Bryant: talk about something, talk something through so it completely makes sense that, hey, those thoughts are there. Instead of pushing them down, just say them. Say 'em

[00:21:20] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:21:23] Shanenn Bryant: Okay, so, well that, I guess I said say 'em out loud. Do you say it out loud or can you just say it to yourself?

[00:21:29] Or does it matter? Either way.

[00:21:30] Amy Vincze: Ideally, you say it out loud.

[00:21:32] Shanenn Bryant: Say it out

[00:21:33] Amy Vincze: There's something really powerful that happens when you actually release words from your throat. And I've had many clients tell me that it just feels so cathartic to have to release a thought that has been in my head forever.

[00:21:48] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah.

[00:21:48] Amy Vincze: So, but if that doesn't feel like a possibility, if it feels too vulnerable, if you know there's people around.

[00:21:56] Absolutely tap and say the words in your head that will still be effective, just not as effective. So, I would do whatever level you can and whatever level you feel comfortable with.

[00:22:09] Shanenn Bryant: Okay. That's helpful because I was imagining, you know, my last, um. Really big trigger on the beach in Costa Rica, and I talk about that episode all the time. But I can imagine people, if I started saying stuff out loud and tapping, you know, people go, okay, what, what,

[00:22:26] Amy Vincze: Right, right.

[00:22:28] Shanenn Bryant: if I, you know, you can kind of probably play off the tapping part, but the talking out loud might,

[00:22:35] Amy Vincze: Yeah. And

[00:22:36] Shanenn Bryant: turn

[00:22:36] Amy Vincze: yeah, and I would say all the things. All the things you're feeling. I would talk about how embarrassing it feels. I would talk about how out of control you feel. I would talk about all the feelings that you're having in those moments. Even if you're kind of cringey, like, I don't even wanna say that out loud.

[00:22:57] Those are the things that you especially need to say out loud. Just give it a voice and then it goes away. You just like…. It persists as long as you resist it.

[00:23:10] Shanenn Bryant: Yep.

[00:23:11] Amy Vincze: Yeah,

[00:23:12] Shanenn Bryant: Okay. So, anything else we need to know before I assume? Are you gonna walk us through like a demonstrate? Are you gonna

[00:23:20] Amy Vincze: I do. I have my whole script ready for you. Yeah.

[00:23:23] Shanenn Bryant: Perfect. Okay. All right.

[00:23:26] Amy Vincze: Okay. So, I'm gonna walk through on the tapping points first. Um, and I just wanna point out that it is. One of the only areas I will ever encourage people to be a perfectionist, because one of the points is at the beginning of your eyebrow, but if you're tapping somewhere up in the middle of your forehead, it's not nearly as effective.

[00:23:47] So we need to be a little bit of a perfectionist around this. So, the first spot is down from our pinky finger. It's called our karate chop point, and I like to tap on both sides of my body. So, I tap those two spots together.

[00:24:03] Shanenn Bryant: Oh,

[00:24:03] Amy Vincze: called your karate chop point. And I'm gonna tell you that, um, all tapping coaches out there will probably use different points and none of them are wrong.

[00:24:13] They might only tap on one side of their body. Um, this is the way that I learned, and I feel like I get the most bang for the buck out of it. Okay.

[00:24:22] Shanenn Bryant: I feel like it would be like the gym if I only worked one side, like I only did my right

[00:24:26] Amy Vincze: Yeah, I feel like I'm here. Why don't I just do all the things?

[00:24:30] Shanenn Bryant: both. And about how long, like once you're at a spot, if we're doing this, when about how long do you stay in each place?

[00:24:40] Amy Vincze: You stay through each place through the words. So, with the Karate Cho

[00:24:43] Shanenn Bryant: Uh, 

[00:24:44] Amy Vincze: right here, we're gonna say what's called a setup statement. And it's like something like, even though I feel really jealous right now, and then you would repeat after me. And, um, I love, I still love and honor all my thoughts and feelings about this.

[00:25:01] And so we say something like that three times, and then we move to the other tapping points, doing something called, um, repeater phrases. So, the first point is right at the beginning of our eyebrows, I wanna tap right there. Second spot is at your temple and then under your eye, right on top of your cheekbones.

[00:25:25] And then under your nose, under your mouth, and the next spot is your collarbone point. So, if you find the beginning of your collarbone, you're gonna go down about an inch. There's a little valley in between your ribs and your collarbone on either side of your sternum. So, you tap on that spot and then under your arms, right?

[00:25:47] Where for women, it's where your bra strap would be maybe three to four inches down from your armpit. Um, the next spot is just below, I don't know if you can hear me, just below your underwire on your bra, on your ribs.

[00:26:04] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, okay.

[00:26:05] Amy Vincze: So right in that spot right there. And then there's, uh, a wrist spot. There's three acupressure points.

[00:26:13] One on the outside, middle, and outside of your wrist. So, when I'm tapping my wrist together, I'm turning them a little bit.

[00:26:20] Shanenn Bryant: Oh,

[00:26:21] Amy Vincze: See if I can hit all three spots so you can do it this way. I sometimes I cross my arms, and it doesn't feel as awkward like that. And then the last one is up on top of your head. So, as we're going through the repeater phrases, I might say something like, I feel so jealous right now, and then I move to the next spot for whatever reason.

[00:26:45] Or for a million reasons. So, we just start honoring and acknowledging all the things and switch spots every time. Um, if you find a spot that feels better or just feels like it needs more attention than others, you can stay there. You don't have to be on the exact same spot that I'm on or that anybody else is on.

[00:27:07] You can just pay attention to your body and, um, intuitively go where you feel like you need to go next. But ideally, we're tapping on all the spots because that covers all 14 energy meridians. 'cause we never know where the blockage actually is in our energy system.

[00:27:26] Shanenn Bryant: as we were doing that, there were a couple places that felt more maybe tender than the other ones. Um, does, is that like a sign, like, oh, stay there longer or not longer, or just like, oh, it's just your body is more tender in some

[00:27:41] Amy Vincze: Uh, that's up to you. If it was me, I would probably stay there a little bit longer. Um, just because to me that means that there's like an energy blockage in that spot. I.

[00:27:53] Shanenn Bryant: Okay.

[00:27:54] Amy Vincze: it was, if energy was flowing freely and you were in a, a really good state, it wouldn't hurt. So maybe that spot more than others needs a little extra attention.

[00:28:05] Shanenn Bryant: Okay. Okay.

[00:28:08] Amy Vincze: Yeah. So, um, I'm gonna ask you take a rating, and I want you to kind of imagine, let's imagine that time in Costa Rica. If you can really kind of dredge up those really intense emotions from that experience. And tell me what your number is. Zero to 10.

[00:28:31] Shanenn Bryant: Oh, I was a

[00:28:32] Amy Vincze: You were a 10?

[00:28:33] Shanenn Bryant: sure. I was an absolute

[00:28:35] Amy Vincze: How did you know? Did you feel it somewhere in your body?

[00:28:38] Just kind of a.

[00:28:40] Shanenn Bryant: Y Yeah. Um, I've always known, like I figured out my places and can recognize them pretty well. When I get that jealousy, it's always my gut my chest tightens. And then of course in my, I really carry it kind of in my jawline. Like I can tell, I kind of clinch my

[00:28:58] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:28:59] Shanenn Bryant: and yeah, like purse my lips, so, yeah.

[00:29:02] Amy Vincze: Okay. The tapping round that we're gonna do is more genericized. If I was working with you one-on-one, I would get details about that event and I would use your words back to you so that it would be really specific for you and that experience. But we're gonna kind of genericize the whole thing and kind of offer up a lot of different options for what could be contributing to that feeling.

[00:29:27] So, um, I'm gonna bring up my tapping script and we're gonna start on your karate chop point. So, whenever I say a statement, you can just repeat after me, say what I say, and tap where I tap. And we're just gonna go through it. Okay.

[00:29:43] Shanenn Bryant: Okay.

[00:29:43] Amy Vincze: It, even though I feel insanely jealous right now,

[00:29:48] Shanenn Bryant: Even though I feel insanely jealous right now.

[00:29:50] Amy Vincze: it's really scary and kind of involuntary.

[00:29:55] Shanenn Bryant: It's really scary and kind of involuntary,

[00:29:59] Amy Vincze: And I honor myself and my feelings about this anyway,

[00:30:03] Shanenn Bryant: and I honor myself and my feelings about this anyway,

[00:30:07] Amy Vincze: even though I feel so jealous in my relationship.

[00:30:11] Shanenn Bryant: even though I feel so jealous in my relationship,

[00:30:15] Amy Vincze: honor all parts of who I am,

[00:30:18] Shanenn Bryant: I honor all parts of who I am.

[00:30:20] Amy Vincze: and I'm open to releasing this issue now.

[00:30:24] Shanenn Bryant: And I'm open to releasing this issue now,

[00:30:27] Amy Vincze: Even though I feel this jealousy in my relationship,

[00:30:31] Shanenn Bryant: even though I feel this jealousy in my relationship,

[00:30:34] Amy Vincze: accept myself anyway

[00:30:37] Shanenn Bryant: I accept myself anyway,

[00:30:39] Amy Vincze: I honor my courage in tackling this issue.

[00:30:42] Shanenn Bryant: and I honor my courage in tackling this issue.

[00:30:45] Amy Vincze: now we're gonna go to the eyebrow point. I feel so jealous. I.

[00:30:51] Shanenn Bryant: I feel so jealous.

[00:30:52] Amy Vincze: It feels irrational and all consuming.

[00:30:56] Shanenn Bryant: It feels irrational and all consuming.

[00:30:59] Amy Vincze: like it's taking over my thoughts and my words.

[00:31:03] Shanenn Bryant: I feel like it's taking over my thoughts and my words.

[00:31:06] Amy Vincze: Jealousy is coursing through my system. Jealousy is coursing through my system, and I feel unable to stop it.

[00:31:16] Shanenn Bryant: and I feel unable to stop it.

[00:31:18] Amy Vincze: I don't like myself when I'm experiencing jealousy like this.

[00:31:23] Shanenn Bryant: I don't like myself when I'm experiencing jealousy like this.

[00:31:27] Amy Vincze: feels desperate and extremely uncomfortable,

[00:31:31] Shanenn Bryant: It feels desperate and extremely uncomfortable,

[00:31:34] Amy Vincze: and I wish it would just go away.

[00:31:38] Shanenn Bryant: and I wish it would just go

[00:31:40] Amy Vincze: I feel embarrassed that it has such a hold on me.

[00:31:44] Shanenn Bryant: I feel embarrassed that it has such a hold on me.

[00:31:47] Amy Vincze: And my heart is struggling with the truth of that.

[00:31:52] Shanenn Bryant: And my heart is struggling with the truth of that.

[00:31:55] Amy Vincze: This insane jealousy.

[00:31:58] Shanenn Bryant: This insane jealousy.

[00:32:00] Amy Vincze: Maybe there's a legitimate reason for it.

[00:32:03] Shanenn Bryant: Maybe there's a legitimate reason

[00:32:06] Amy Vincze: Maybe I'm reacting to my partner's behavior.

[00:32:09] Shanenn Bryant: Maybe I'm reacting to my partner's behavior.

[00:32:12] Amy Vincze: maybe I have past hurts that I would rather not duplicate.

[00:32:17] Shanenn Bryant: Maybe I have past hurts. I'd rather not duplicate.

[00:32:21] Amy Vincze: Maybe I have an instinct about something

[00:32:25] Shanenn Bryant: Maybe I have an instinct about

[00:32:27] Amy Vincze: and I'm frantically searching for evidence,

[00:32:30] Shanenn Bryant: and I'm frantically searching for evidence,

[00:32:33] Amy Vincze: so jealous and insecure the whole time. I.

[00:32:37] Shanenn Bryant: feeling so jealous and insecure the whole time.

[00:32:40] Amy Vincze: I wish I could just let it go and walk away,

[00:32:44] Shanenn Bryant: I wish I could just let it go and walk away,

[00:32:47] Amy Vincze: but I can't. I'm consumed with jealousy

[00:32:51] Shanenn Bryant: but I can't. I'm consumed with jealousy

[00:32:54] Amy Vincze: getting the better of me,

[00:32:56] Shanenn Bryant: and it's getting the better of me.

[00:32:59] Amy Vincze: these intense feelings.

[00:33:02] Shanenn Bryant: These intense feelings, I

[00:33:04] Amy Vincze: Maybe I don't feel attractive enough

[00:33:07] Shanenn Bryant: maybe I don't feel attractive enough.

[00:33:09] Amy Vincze: confident enough.

[00:33:12] Shanenn Bryant: Confident

[00:33:12] Amy Vincze: Maybe it's truly hard to believe that my partner is satisfied with me.

[00:33:18] Shanenn Bryant: maybe It's truly hard to believe my partner is satisfied with

[00:33:21] Amy Vincze: It's exposing what the low self, it's exposing the low self-image I have.

[00:33:28] Shanenn Bryant: It's exposing the low self-image I have.

[00:33:31] Amy Vincze: And there's a part of me that feels completely unlovable

[00:33:35] Shanenn Bryant: There's a part of me that feels completely unlovable.

[00:33:39] Amy Vincze: it's truly painful.

[00:33:41] Shanenn Bryant: And it's truly painful.

[00:33:43] Amy Vincze: It's hard to see what value I bring to this relationship,

[00:33:47] Shanenn Bryant: It's hard to see what value I bring to this relationship,

[00:33:51] Amy Vincze: so, I get really jealous that someone can fill that gap easily.

[00:33:56] Shanenn Bryant: so, I get really jealous that someone can fill that gap easily,

[00:34:00] Amy Vincze: I want to honor that at the deepest level.

[00:34:04] Shanenn Bryant: and I want to honor that at the deepest

[00:34:07] Amy Vincze: It's really scary to acknowledge that I'm struggling with this

[00:34:11] Shanenn Bryant: It is really scary to acknowledge that I'm struggling with

[00:34:14] Amy Vincze: and to be open to looking at it from a new perspective.

[00:34:18] Shanenn Bryant: and to be open to looking at it for, from a new perspective.

[00:34:22] Amy Vincze: this relationship is worth it, though.

[00:34:25] Shanenn Bryant: Maybe this relationship is worth it,

[00:34:27] Amy Vincze: I don't wanna continue feeling this way,

[00:34:29] Shanenn Bryant: I, I don't wanna continue feeling

[00:34:32] Amy Vincze: and I would love to have the courage to break this cycle

[00:34:36] Shanenn Bryant: And I would love to have the courage to break this cycle

[00:34:39] Amy Vincze: feel open about trusting myself and my instincts,

[00:34:44] Shanenn Bryant: and feel open about trusting myself and my instincts,

[00:34:47] Amy Vincze: it feels vulnerable and scary.

[00:34:50] Shanenn Bryant: even if it feels vulnerable and scary.

[00:34:54] Amy Vincze: If I let myself be vulnerable and provide some transparency about my triggers,

[00:35:00] Shanenn Bryant: If I let myself feel vulnerable and provide some transparency about my triggers,

[00:35:05] Amy Vincze: maybe my partner and I can manage the situation with some compassion

[00:35:10] Shanenn Bryant: maybe my partner and I can manage the situation with some compassion

[00:35:15] Amy Vincze: work on understanding each other's vulnerabilities.

[00:35:19] Shanenn Bryant: and work on understanding each other's vulnerabilities.

[00:35:22] Amy Vincze: to feel like I'm worthy and deserving of love.

[00:35:26] Shanenn Bryant: I want to feel like I'm worthy and deserving

[00:35:28] Amy Vincze: I've been expecting my partner to make me feel that way,

[00:35:32] Shanenn Bryant: I've been expecting my partner to make me feel that

[00:35:35] Amy Vincze: but it's clear this is an inside job.

[00:35:38] Shanenn Bryant: but it's clear this is an inside

[00:35:40] Amy Vincze: I must accept that this is my work to do, not theirs.

[00:35:45] Shanenn Bryant: I must accept that this is my work to do, not theirs.

[00:35:48] Amy Vincze: And surrender the idea that I need to heal my injured heart,

[00:35:53] Shanenn Bryant: And surrender the idea that I need to heal my injured heart,

[00:35:58] Amy Vincze: feeling more and more peaceful in my body now

[00:36:02] Shanenn Bryant: feeling more and more peaceful in my body

[00:36:04] Amy Vincze: as I embrace the truth of this situation.

[00:36:08] Shanenn Bryant: as I embrace the truth of this situation

[00:36:11] Amy Vincze: to make the best choice for me in this relationship,

[00:36:16] Shanenn Bryant: and vow to make the best choice for me in this relationship.

[00:36:20] Amy Vincze: whether there's validity to my jealousy or not,

[00:36:23] Shanenn Bryant: Whether there's validity to my jealousy or not,

[00:36:26] Amy Vincze: I can heal the wounds that keep me in a disempowering place.

[00:36:31] Shanenn Bryant: so, I can heal the wounds that keep me in a disempowering place.

[00:36:36] Amy Vincze: Take a nice deep breath.

[00:36:49] So then we would take another rating

[00:36:52] Shanenn Bryant: Okay.

[00:36:56] Amy Vincze: go from there.

[00:36:58] Shanenn Bryant: Yeah, could definitely see how I mean it. 'cause I'm not in it, but I would, I mean that I feel like would've brought me down to a good, maybe, you know, four,

[00:37:09] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:37:10] Shanenn Bryant: there

[00:37:11] Amy Vincze: It doesn't take much.

[00:37:12] Shanenn Bryant: that.

[00:37:13] Amy Vincze: take much. Yeah.

[00:37:15] Shanenn Bryant: Wow.

[00:37:16] Amy Vincze: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:18] Shanenn Bryant: Um, thank you, my gosh, for walking us through

[00:37:20] Amy Vincze: Yay.

[00:37:21] Shanenn Bryant: Is it, I have a couple

[00:37:22] Amy Vincze: Of course. Yeah.

[00:37:23] Shanenn Bryant: Okay. Um, so when I said like, I think people are, will get caught up on the timeframe, like how long does it take? And you're just saying as long as stuff is coming to your mind, you just keep saying

[00:37:38] Amy Vincze: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:37:39] Shanenn Bryant: and then. switch over to the positive, I guess is like when I've drained out all that negative or I feel like I've gotten all that negative, then I switch over to the positive give us the, like what is the goal there that I'm trying to tell myself?

[00:37:56] Just that it is my issue to work through. And you know, is there a of a goal there that we're trying to hit?

[00:38:05] Amy Vincze: The goal is to feel neutral in the jealousy,

[00:38:09] Shanenn Bryant: Okay.

[00:38:10] Amy Vincze: um, and to feel peaceful about the idea that you need to do some work around increasing your self-esteem and um, and letting go of insecurities, that type of thing.

[00:38:22] Shanenn Bryant: Got it. So, it's just telling ourselves like, hey, this is our work. We know that we've got some work to do, that we're working on ourselves to heal this jealousy and insecurity. That's kind

[00:38:33] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:38:33] Shanenn Bryant: because I think people will get really caught up on the. script or what they're supposed to

[00:38:39] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:40] Shanenn Bryant: um, you

[00:38:41] Amy Vincze: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:38:42] Shanenn Bryant: might be a, a thing that they would get caught up on.

[00:38:45] Amy Vincze: Uh, it's easy to do. Uh, so when I created the, the app and all of the scripts within the app, I. I have to kind of genericize things

[00:38:55] Shanenn Bryant: Mm-hmm.

[00:38:55] Amy Vincze: and I have to kind of take everybody on the full emotional arc. So really delving into kind of all of the negative aspects or the uncomfortable aspects of what you're feeling and then kind of bringing it over to a positive that feels, that can leave you feeling in a peaceful state.

[00:39:15] But what people can expect is that they start off at a 10 like you were when you were in Costa Rica. They can expect that it's gonna take like maybe four rounds to get you down to a zero. So, it's not, in general, gonna get you down to a zero in one round. It's gonna take more than 10 minutes, but it's taken a lifetime to kind of create these feelings in you.

[00:39:40] And so I have an expectation that it's gonna take at least 45 minutes to an hour of constant tapping. I will always encourage people if they're using the app or anything else to infuse their own words and thoughts into it. So, if I'm not saying exactly what you're feeling, don't say what I'm saying. Say what you're feeling.

[00:40:03] That's the most important thing. Use your words. Use your experience and the sensations that are coming up in your body. Like if I was doing. Tapping around with you, I would've acknowledged the fact that you feel it in your gut. I would've acknowledged that the, the words and the emotions are getting stuck in your throat, and you feel a lot of tension there.

[00:40:24] Like I would've acknowledged and honored all of those things, um, all of those parts of you that were struggling in those moments, I would've acknowledged all of it. So, I want everybody to just assume that their experience is the most important one. Their words are the most important and. Say what is most meaningful to them?

[00:40:47] The tapping scripts are meant as a guide for people who don't exactly know what they're feeling, haven't often allowed themselves to, um, even get curious about what they're feeling. Uh, they just know the rage and the intensity of the jealousy that's at the top.

[00:41:07] Shanenn Bryant: right.

[00:41:08] Amy Vincze: But, um, so it's just meant as a guide.

[00:41:13] Shanenn Bryant: You know what? I wanna share something. This is so interesting. As you were talking, the emotions were kind of coming up in me, which is bizarre. Um, because probably I'm so, you know, I wasn't even, you know, near a 10 on the jealousy. I wasn't jealous at all. I'm sitting here with

[00:41:30] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:41:32] Shanenn Bryant: I was thinking about that time when I felt that way and, you know, you mentioned something about feeling it in my, my kind of my throat, my

[00:41:40] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm.

[00:41:40] Shanenn Bryant: and my words being stuck there. And that's sort of that feeling that I maybe had not connected to this before of not being heard. Right. Not being

[00:41:55] Amy Vincze: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[00:41:56] Shanenn Bryant: That was a big thing that's been, you know, a thing throughout my life. So

[00:42:02] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:42:02] Shanenn Bryant: it's very interesting. I don't know why that was just coming up there again, probably because, you know, tapping on all those things and getting to that relaxed point and you just happen to say those words.

[00:42:12] So there were some emotions there that started to come up like, oh gosh, man. Yeah, that's still a little bit

[00:42:17] Amy Vincze: Yes. And that's to your benefit to actually feel the emotion because that's how we move through it. So, you allow yourself to feel it, and that's, it's meant to do that. It's meant to be triggering for you and to get yourself to. The, like the most intense state that you can be because that's when you know you will have addressed all the issues.

[00:42:41] Like if you, if you just come into it, well, I don't feel jealous in this moment, but I'm tapping on jealousy and it's not gonna do anything. But if we kind of. Put you in that moment in Costa Rica when you were feeling all of those things. And then you kind of remember and you feel it, and you allow yourself to feel it because that trauma is still there until you move through it.

[00:43:06] And that's when we can truly neutralize that particular event or that particular feeling. Yes, yes.

[00:43:14] Shanenn Bryant: Okay, so I love that you have an app. I want you, if you don't mind, share information about the app. Where can people go to get it? 'cause I think. Like, even if you're in the beginning of this, you've never done it before, you're gonna love to have you, Amy walking through and guiding someone in their tapping.

[00:43:34] And then as you said, you know, okay, I can break out maybe to my own things or say my own

[00:43:38] Amy Vincze: Yeah.

[00:43:39] Shanenn Bryant: um, as I just get familiar with it. So how do we get the app? Tell us about that.

[00:43:44] Amy Vincze: Yeah, you can find it on the Apple or Google Play stores. Um. If you go to my website, so with dapping.com/podcast special, all your listeners can find a code to get 50% off of their first annual subscription. Um, you can also find me on social media, on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all, all the socials. 'cause I do like a little daily tapping on different things to kind of give people a gift to get throughout their day.

[00:44:12] Um, but yeah, the thing that

[00:44:16] Shanenn Bryant: what's the app called

[00:44:17] Amy Vincze: soar with tapping.

[00:44:19] Shanenn Bryant: Soar with tapping, so go grab the app. Um, I'm definitely gonna download it and, um, thank you so much. Will you give the link again? We'll put it in the show

[00:44:30] Amy Vincze: Okay,

[00:44:30] Shanenn Bryant: if you'll tell 'em the link again to get the 50%

[00:44:32] Amy Vincze: sure. Soarwithtapping.com/podcastspecial

[00:44:40] Shanenn Bryant: Awesome. Amy. Thank you so much. I love it. That was my first tapping

[00:44:46] Amy Vincze: Oh good.

[00:44:46] Shanenn Bryant: and some of you brought some emotion up in me, so I'm gonna have to, um, go give that some attention. I think so,

[00:44:54] Amy Vincze: I hope you do. I hope you do. You won't do any harm, and it just might help.

[00:44:57] Shanenn Bryant: Great. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for being

[00:45:01] Amy Vincze: Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. Thank you, Shanenn. I.

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